Evansdale Elementary School
School Council Magnet
Proposal October 2012
Summary of feedback
received through email communications
Parent Responses
Non-magnet
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20
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Resident
magnet
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13
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Non-resident
magnet
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3
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Both
magnet and non-magnet
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2
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Community
member
|
1
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TOTAL
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39
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Notes on coding of email feedback
· Every effort was made
to retain the specific language used by individuals who submitted feedback by
email.
· In some cases, it was
difficult to determine the intent of certain statements included in emails. In
these situations, every effort was made not to interpret the meaning, but to make
a literal application of the statements made.
· Some emails included lengthy
discussion of particular points. In these cases, a few sentences that
summarized the overall points were included in this summary.
· The following summary
includes comments and suggestions that were generally related to the proposal. A number of additional recommendations, comments,
and suggestions were also submitted by email, but they were outside the scope
of the magnet proposal.
Coding Categories
Comments
on current program/status of program/funding of program
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In support of current status
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Against current status
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Overall
comments about the proposal
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In support of the proposal overall
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Against the proposal overall
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Other
comments/suggestions
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Support for grandfathering in current “at-large”
students
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Parental participation requirement
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Retain “magnet” designation
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Magnet
program proposal
1.
Dissolve the magnet homerooms and distribute resident and non-resident magnet
students among all homerooms.
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Warm
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Cold
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Support for keeping “cohorts” together (regardless of
magnet status)
2. No
change in the science lab
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Warm
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Cold
3.
Offer French twice a week for all students in grades 1-5
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Warm
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Cold
4.
Each grade will contain a minimum of 10 non-resident students.
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Warm
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Cold
5.
Provide tutoring and remediation services at Evansdale if any student's
performance is below B average or a student tests below grade level.
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Warm
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Cold
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Unresolved
issues/Other comments
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Low participation of ELL students in magnet
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Overcrowding
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Comments on current program/Status of program/Funding of program
In support of current status
- I believe that
the current Magnet program benefits all Evansdale students by allowing
them to participate in science lab and eventually French classes. The
Science program at Evansdale was very important to my family in selecting
a neighborhood to move to for elementary school. The Magnet School was
also important to our final decision to move to this community rather than
somewhere else. We do not have a child in the magnet program.
- Parent
attraction and retention is exactly the reason we still need a strong
magnet program today. Not only does Evansdale have an ongoing challenge of
attracting new education-focused parents to our community, but we need to
keep the committed parents that currently contribute as part of our
community.
Against current status
- This is not fair
or equitable in a public school environment. We might as well be a "separate but
equal" school, which is a concept that I doubt any of us would
support.
- There is no
getting around the fact that it no longer brings in any financial
resources to the school and there is no longer a need for it to bring in
additional students and a more diverse student population as was
originally a part of its mandate. Because of changing demographics it has
also created a perverse "private school within a public school"
dynamic that does not support an equitable and fair education for all. For
these reasons, the program needs to evolve and change.
- Classes at
Evansdale are demographically unequal and a program such as magnet is able
to continue without funding. These
are two critical points to the future of this school. If the magnet
program was a unique solution to help an under enrolled school stay open
and integrate, then it has way outlived its usefulness based on today’s
enrollment.
- With the lack of
funding this is the perfect time to dismantle the program.
- The status quo
is completely unfair, and unsustainable. If there's no money, I feel like
the program must end.
- I feel compelled
to speak up and against continuing the magnet program as it currently
stands. Naturally, parents of kids in the program want nothing to change -
the children enrolled have an unfair advantage against those children not
in the program. But the fact
remains, Evansdale is a public school - not a private school. And if all
the children are not getting and equal and fair education, then you are
bringing a disservice to the majority of children at this school. This
school exists to serve the children of this community. Right now, 160 of
our students have an unfair advantage over the other 500 non-magnet
students. The priorities of schooling have been lost, and its time to
bring the magnet program to an end. That is a disappointment to me as a
parent, a taxpayer, and a member of this community – especially in a state
and county where our students are already below the national average.
- How do you
propose this community continue to fund a program (in light of cuts to our
school, such as for needs including early intervention programs) with the
majority of the students are not enrolled in this program? How can you
justify the Foundation supporting programs that only benefit 100 kids in
our school of nearly 700 students? Again, this is a public school, not a
private school. The magnet program
has to stop being treated as a private school within a public school.
- I am glad to see
that the SC has recognized that the Magnet program “as-is” must change,
especially in light of the discontinuation of DeKalb County funding. There
are Magnet parents stubbornly digging in & questioning why things
can’t go on the way they are. The main argument I get from them is because
the program has been so great for their kids. In a sense, this shows
exactly why it needs to change. When I ask what benefit it is to the rest
of the school to fund it for them at the expense of others, I’ve gotten no
answer. We all want the best education for our children. The Magnet
program “as-is" within our school is simply unfunded, unfair, unequal
& divisive.
- Now that magnet
funding is gone, I feel strongly that this is the time to discontinue the
program, as it is. I have always felt that it is unfair to provide extra
services to one small group of students who qualify by lottery, not by
merit or special need. If extra services are to be provided, they should
benefit all students at the school.
- I wanted to
voice my opinion about the magnet program. The magnet NEEDS to benefit all
children at Evansdale, the Magnet needs to change! The people who support
the magnet as is, are the ones who were "lucky" enough to be
pulled from the lottery. The lottery is unfair, even if all children were
automatically listed for the lottery it would still be unfair.
- DeKalb County
has a serious budget problem and we question the school’s ability to keep
this magnet program going. We believe in this community to make this a
good school for all students. We
were skeptical last year to give to the Evansdale Foundation because we
did not want our money to save a program that currently segregates and
does not benefit our children. As a
contributor to the Eagle Trek this year we trust that the school can use
the money towards investments that impact the largest number of students.
Overall comments about the proposal
In support of the proposal overall
- Good proposal.
- I wanted to
email to show my support of the Magnet proposal. Overall I felt the
majority of those in attendance support the integration of the Magnet
students into the general population. It is very evident how segregated
the Magnet classes have become. The statistics support it, as does the
fact that the Magnet classes "win" every participation and
money-raising goal set by the school.
I understand why they want to keep it "as is." However, I
feel their reasoning is to benefit their own children and not the benefit
Evansdale as a whole. We all know how much our school has changed the last
2 years and I have often thought of "jumping ship" and either
moving or changing schools. However, this proposal gives me hope that we
can come together as a school and get through this difficult transition.
- Both of my kids
are in magnet, and I have loved the program. But after hearing in detail how other
parents and teachers feel about it, it really seems unfathomable to keep
as is. Any magnet points should be
distributed throughout the school.
- The proposal put
forth is acceptable with one caveat, the students should have a language
elective for 5 days a week.
- I just wanted to
let you know that I am very much in favor of the changes the SC proposed
for the magnet program. I really don't understand how some folks think we
can keep the program the way it is in light of the lack of funding, not to
mention the fact that the reasons the magnet was created no longer apply.
- For the most
part, I agree with the magnet proposal. I would not be upset if it was
implemented the way that it was presented. I feel that it fairly handles
the issues of budget and inequity.
- I believe that
the Magnet Proposal is the way to go. As a parent of a non-magnet student,
I believe that what the magnet program offers should be offered to all students.
- I'm writing to
support the proposed changes to Evansdale's Magnet Program. I am honestly
baffled as to why anyone would not want to change the current system which
supports so few students at our school, creating an unfair system of
"haves" and "have nots." It is most decidedly unfair
that money was diverted from a much-needed EIP program that is far more
meaningful in the lives of students who need it in order to pay for a
French teacher whose lessons, while stimulating, really aren't enhancing anyone's
life in a truly significant way.
- I FULLY support
this proposal because I think it makes sense and is fair to all
parties. I think it is important
that ALL the children at Evansdale benefit to the same degree from the
wonderful French and Science resources that we have available. I think the
proposed revisions make sense, and actually will improve the educational
experiences for the student population as a whole.
- We are writing
to urge you to support the proposed changes to Evansdale's magnet program. The current program has evolved from its
original purpose, which was to attract out-of-district students to an
under-populated Evansdale, into a program which allows for an optimal
learning environment for a few students.
Over the years, we have heard from many others who feel as we do
that this has created much negative tension among students, parents and
teachers at Evansdale. The
club-like culture among many magnet parents and students, which is highly
perceived by students and parents
alike, is an unfortunate and counter-productive by-product of this lottery
program.
- We feel that the
proposed changes will enhance life and learning at Evansdale, providing
all students access to a great program and spreading the contagious
culture of highly engaged parents around the school.
- I support this
proposal.
- This is to let
you know that I am strongly FOR the proposed changes to the Magnet program
at Evansdale Elementary. Due to the
dramatic increase in enrollment of kids with all skill levels including
many students who speak English as a second language, there is now a much
higher burden on the non-Magnet teachers to education kids of all reading
and math levels within their classrooms.
The proposed changes which have been discussed in group forum,
would allow the current teaching staff to share responsibility with regard
to giving the best education possible to ALL of the students at Evansdale
Elementary.
- I fully support
all of the changes that you have outlined in the proposal. I understand
that with the recent budget cuts that our magnet program is not being
funded. I personally think it is unethical for additional resources to be
allocated to only 20% of our student population.
- I think the
proposal sounds like a good first step.
- As a magnet and
non-magnet parent, I look forward to a school that is unified in providing
the best education to each student without having to win the lottery.
- I strongly agree
with the proposed magnet changes. I
have been very involved with PTA and a room-mom for the past 5 years. I do see a huge inequity between the
magnet and non-magnet classrooms.
With with the large population increase last year, most of which we
are unable to get parental volunteers, involvement, and resources, it is
even more important now to equally spread out the magnet families. The
inequity that now exists effects all students, parents and teachers.
- I agree with the
proposed changes as stated. I have
always felt that the program was not as necessary to the success of
Evansdale as it was when it began years ago. With funding cuts, the strain to
maintain the program as is, is too much on the other students and school
resources.
- I really
appreciate your proposal to build a magnet school. It is an exciting
change to provide equal opportunity to all students, and to give positive
feedback to the parents who support Evansdale. Evansdale becomes such a
good school, the parents and students from non-magnet program make
substantial contribution. Now it is time to be fair to them, and the
school council is doing right thing at right time. It is really necessary
to expand magnet program to whole school, to make Evansdale better.
- I also feel the
proposal is thoughtful and balanced, especially in the way it would extend
Magnet instruction to the entire student population.
- I've already
spoken to a couple members and expressed approval of the direction in
which we are going. In light of the loss of magnet points, it makes sense
to "share the wealth" and allow all students to benefit equally
from Evansdale's resources.
Against the proposal overall
- Eliminating the
magnet classes, removing daily French, and not requiring a B grade point
is the end of the magnet program for which Evansdale is known. This seems driven more by the
overcrowding of Evansdale and not equity. The risks of giving up the magnet
program are likely giving it up forever, losing the magnet status and
stellar reputation within Dekalb County, negatively impacting the
neighborhood attractiveness, losing good teachers who selected Evansdale
because of the magnet program, and likely lowering of test scores (rather
than spreading or raising them as is likely hoped for).
- Please keep the
magnet program as-is. The current system allows all kids, regardless of
their sex, race, religion, or any other factor from being the primary
consideration for attending the magnet program. The current system is a
lottery, open to all, and devoid of any of these factors from impacting
decisions on who can participate and who attends the school. It is
supposed to be based on 50% local kids and 50% out-of-district kids.
Other comments/suggestions
Support for grandfathering in current
“at-large” students
- As an at-large
parent I fully support keeping all the current at-large students. Our
children and their parents are an integral part of the school and I am thankful
that you all have considered us as part of the Evansdale community in this
proposal. I hope that we will have your continue support in the future.
Parental participation requirement
- To help support
this endeavor, I would love to see a participation requirement on the part
of all parents (or guardians, aunts, cousins…). This requirement could be
as few as three hours per year, per family. I think this could be included
in this part of the proposal, since parent engagement is linked to higher
grades and this would help our students to maintain the B’s that are
needed.
- “Grandfather in” existing At Large
(non-resident) magnet students.
Retain “magnet” designation
- Retain “Magnet”
designation in name – If we draw students from out of district, we are a magnet.
If we choose to do some kind of math and science specialization, we should
still make sure we brand ourselves attractively – a Math and Science Theme
School or Math and Science Magnet or STEM Magnet/Theme.
- There is no
doubt that the magnet has had a positive impact on Evansdale. In addition
to the funding, the ‘magnet’ label attracts parents who are interested in
education. This is not to say that non-magnet parents are not, but the
magnet label increases the interest of educationally minded parents.
Magnet attracts parents who are highly involved. And not just parents who
prefer to have their children ‘tracked’, it attracts parents who value
foreign languages. There is no proof in your proposal that the dispersed
magnet program will have the same level of attractiveness.
- I think it is
very important for the neighborhood (property values/school desirability)
that we keep some kind of magnet to help our school/neighborhood stand out
from others.
Magnet Program Proposal
1.
Dissolve the magnet homerooms and distribute resident and non-resident magnet
students among all homerooms.
Warm
- The benefit of
eliminating the magnet program (grandfathering in the students who are
there now) seems to be spreading the teaching resources across the school
so the large class sizes are evenly dispersed.
- All students
should be equally divided among the homerooms, otherwise we suspect it
would be difficult to encourage other families to move here if there was
such a discrepancy in the class make up.
- Magnet parents
typically donate far more time and funds than non-magnet parents. Spreading them around isn’t intended to
change the amount of money they donate, but would equalize the amount of
volunteer time that classrooms receive.
- Agree strongly. Achieves
equity in class makeup; alleviates maximum class size differences;
eliminates the “haves and have nots” situation (for children, parents, and
teachers); allows us to still label ourselves a “magnet” school, because
we still accept non-resident kids; makes funding easier if we don’t have
to choose between magnet and non-magnet.
- I believe that
the removal of the magnet class will allow for a better distribution of
diversity and student level throughout all the classes.
- I totally agree
it is time to dissolve Magnet homerooms. It should be in the hands of the
administration & teachers to create homerooms that work best for each
grade level.
- I do not regret
the decision to not put my children in the magnet even though over the
past two years I've seen first hand the inequities between the magnet and
non-magnet classrooms in terms of academic performance, socioeconomic
situation, % of ELL and more. Our
school took on quite a bit when we accepted the redistricted students from
Pleasantdale and the magnet's insular nature meant it was business as
usual for those students while the teachers took on the brunt of the
effects. Now in the upper grades
the effects are not as severe but it is time to dissolve the magnet
homerooms.
- I think that
distributing the magnet benefits across all students would go a long way
to improve our schools overall sense of community and prevent a lot of
future bickering.
- Agree
Strongly. Keeps magnet label,
achieves equal learning environments for students and teachers.
- Although I am an
at-large parent and I love our current class make-up, I understand that
many see the need to dissolve the magnet homerooms.
- Spreading the
benefits of the magnet school across the entire school would benefit the
learning of all students: achieves equity in class makeup; alleviates
maximum class size differences; eliminates the “haves and have nots”
situation (for children, parents, and teachers); allows us to still label
ourselves a “magnet” school, because we still accept non-resident kids;
makes funding easier if we don’t have to choose between magnet and
non-magnet.
Cold
- Mainstreaming
doesn't affect our funding level.
Whether or not the program is mainstreamed becomes moot if we
cannot pay for the language and science teachers.
- Beyond the
concern for their children’s education that will continue, magnet parents
are aware of their good fortune and feel motivated to “give back”. With mainstreaming, some are probably
going to feel less fortunate and less motivated to give both time and
money. I don’t have a strong sense
of what the loss:benefit ratio would look like, but one indicator is that
some magnet families plan to leave Evansdale if mainstreaming goes
through.
- If all previous
magnet students and parents remain in school and still choose to
participate, there would only be 12 current magnet Evansdale student
parents available for redistribution throughout the entire grade. Non-Evansdale magnet parents are usually
heavily invested in our school and we will lose those parents and their
contributions to Evansdale if the magnet class is eliminated (even if
current out-of-district students are grandfathered in the school would
lose that high contributing parent population over time).
- The curriculum
being broadened to the entire school is nothing more than a ruse to get
local parents to buy-in to a diversity program, just as it was done in the
90's to "integrate" the school.
Support for keeping “cohorts” together (even
if current classes are re-distributed)
- What if we let
the current magnet classes matriculate out together, and all the incoming
Kindergarten at large kids be dispersed throughout the grade. Each year
for the next five years, we would have one less magnet-only class, until
the last one (current K) matriculates out and goes on to middle school.
So, for instance, next year, 1st through fifth would have a magnet class,
but the incoming K class would be dispersed, with no magnet-only class.
The following year, 2nd through fifth would have a magnet class, but K and
first would be "dispersed" throughout the grade. Might soften
the blow a bit for those worried about their cohort, or retain, at least
temporarily, the allegedly more involved parents who might leave if the
classes are leveled. (Would be more of a phasing out.)
- My comments are
related to keeping cohorts together for future classes (with the
diversity, etc.). I want to make
sure we are making sound decisions based on data and practice. Are there benefits to keeping children
in the same cohort at least from K-2?
It is my understanding that they begin to move around at 3rd grade
anyway – so doesn’t seem as relevant at that time.
- I personally
like the same cohort feel (regardless of magnet vs. non-magnet). I like the ability to really get to know
parents and children better.
2. No
change in the science lab
Warm
- If it comes down
to it, and we can somehow get one point, I'd say use it for science
lab. Given the questionable benefit
of 2x/wk French, keeping science seems more logical.
- Agree. Science
lab is one of the most important programs offered at the school, and
reason many moved here; more important to most than foreign language; a
program that the whole community can get behind if it means raising our
own funds to retain the lab and teacher.
- I support this.
- I fully support
the continuation of Science Lab at Evansdale. Almost every child I know
that attended or attends EES speaks of only praise for the Science
program. My kids often come home excitedly talking about something they
learned in Lab. My HMS student excels in Science. Science Lab is the best vestige
of Magnet.
- I must say that
my children have greatly benefitted from the science lab at Evansdale, and
I wholeheartedly support continuing the science program, as best we can.
- I think like
other parents I would like to see Science (along with many subjects)
expanded and enhanced at some point down the road.
- Agree. Love the science program and lab.
Cold
No
“cold” comments made on this item.
3.
Offer French twice a week for all students in grades 1-5
Warm
- Ideally,
offering foreign language classes to younger students is the best time for
teaching new language. Ideally the younger students at Evansdale could
benefit from language classes. This may not be the most important
educational issue to all parents.
- I would really
hope we would delve deeper into making this a successful part of the
school. This would be developing a
strong plan for growth overtime. I
don’t think Evansdale can separate itself from any other schools in the
area without this concept. Many
other schools in the area are all over science, math, etc. Foreign
language instruction is something unique that no other school has. I would also make learning a foreign
language or foreign language instruction mandatory for each child K-5.
- My thought is to
offer French every day for kids K-2.
It is well documented that children’s brains are more open at this
time than as they get older. While
I have seen different studies – some say the ability starts closing down around
age 7. I think we miss a major
window here. .
I understand that instead of continuing with daily French for magnet
students, the proposal is to let all students in the school receive French
instruction twice a week. This seems fair.
Cold
- I wish that
French could be offered more times a week to grades 3-5 versus everyone
get a foreign language 2 times a week, however, there are no county-funded
resources for a foreign language at this time.
- Daily exposure
to a language is needed for meaningful learning. In other words, this proposal takes us
from giving insufficient exposure to some children to giving insufficient
exposure to all children. This
actually hurts overall academic achievement instead of helping.
- Attempting to
learn two languages at once is counter-productive. For children who are currently learning
English as a second language, adding French to their load would be
problematic. French should wait
until English is solid.
- From the
children’s standpoint, the concern would be that school-wide language
lessons that are not held with each class every day at each grade level
could actually result in less students being able to become fluent in a
foreign language compared to the current magnet structure.
- The needs of our
school are much more basic and essential than a foreign language.
- To receive the
benefit of foreign language education, it should be taught every day. If that's not possible, then that time
should be spent on the core subjects.
- I am not sure if
providing French 2x a week is possible time-wise. If so that is great,
however, I do like the idea of offering choices, such as, Spanish,
technology, engineering, or environmental stewardship.
- Makes more
equitable than current program, but most would prefer Spanish; if there is
no funding for French, I would choose to eliminate French; if forced to
choose, and if funded by parents, I would fund Math, Science, Reading/EIP,
or Technology over French.
- I am personally
undecided on the continuation of the Foreign Language classes at EES.
Truthfully, I have been disappointed in the once weekly French class. The
best I can say is that it offers enrichment, which is fine, and that it
gives the classroom teachers a small break. If FL is continued, I would
prefer maybe x1 a week for all K-2, x2 for grades 3-5 (or whatever one
teacher could handle) And if possible, I wouldn’t mind seeing an advanced
French offered to all qualified students, one class per grade 3-5 &/or
finding funds for computer enrichment programs for the language students
who are ahead of the curve.
- It is clear that
language instructions can provide significant benefits, but there is
evidence that children who have not yet achieved a basic mastery of
English would benefit from learning French at the same time as having to
cope with learning English plus mastering other subjects in English. There
may also be other students with specific disabilities that make them ill
suited for learning a foreign language.
- I do not
advocate continuing the French program. Unless children receive French
instruction every day, as the magnet children are lucky enough to do,
there is very little benefit.
- First, we have
some students that are native Spanish speakers that are struggling with
the English language, adding a third language will only add to the task of
advancing them academically in overcrowded classrooms of primarily English
speaking students. Secondly, magnet
students that have been in French 5 days per week since Kindergarten would
not receive quality French instruction.
Per the proposal, their instruction time would be dropped from 5
days per week to 2 days per week and they would be co-mingled with
students that have limited or no French language background. How does this
benefit all students?
- We should not be
teaching French at the school. English speakers should get spanish
lessons. ESOL kids should get english language skills. Teaching French is
a waste of resources. Kids need to be taught a language they will use for
the rest of their lives. Teaching spanish will enable kids to communicate
in the modern world, as well with their neighbors. They will use it every
day.
- I would be in
favor of dropping the foreign language component and adding additional
math and science. I don't think we
will be able to offer enough exposure for our students to retain any
foreign language and our resources are better spent in boosting the amount
of math and science they receive.
- Also, I think
Spanish should be the language taught to all the kids. I think this is a huge opportunity to
bring more of the ESL parents in to the fold and a tremendous opportunity
to make Evansdale an even tighter community.
- Strongly
disagree. Prefer Spanish over
French. Two days a week is not
beneficial in learning a language.
Would rather see a bigger focus on math and science if I had to
choose.
- My suggestion is
to let current 2nd, 3rd, and 4th grade magnet students stay on a
accelerated French language track until they graduate from Evansdale. Even if they only receive French twice a
week, the instruction should remain more rigorous and level appropriate.
4. Each
grade will contain a minimum of 10 non-resident students.
Warm
- I think that
establishing a minimum for the out-of-district folks is essential. Overcrowding is transient, and
redistricting will happen at some point in the future. By establishing a minimum, it will
demonstrate the commitment to the program and help have an appropriate
sized district when the next redistricting occurs.
- We also must
maintain the magnet label, therefore we must maintain a significant number
of out of district magnet students. They are an asset to the school, and
not just to balance out the demographics. I understand that the school is
overcrowded, but I believe that classroom overcrowding is way worse than
school overcrowding, and the 10 extra students currently allow us to be at
the next level for several classes, i.e., they are beneficial to student
teacher ratio.
- I support
continuing to bring in a limited number of out of district students to
benefit from Evansdale's Magnet program.
- As for the 10
students, I agree with the proposal.
If this is going to be part of the “Magnet” definition then it
should be done. There shouldn’t be
any half doing this or that. It
also seems disingenuous to make it variable year to year. I say either do it or don’t.
- I say we add in
a provision that siblings of current out-of-district students get first
priority out of the 10. So after
siblings are factored in, the remaining number will be the open slots
available to out-of-districts for the following year.
Cold
- I think 10
out-of-district students coming in for Kindergarten may be too high a
number, but I don't think there is a big difference in letting in 5,
7...or 10
- Evansdale has
had to increase the number of its homerooms and manage overflow with
trailers. The proposal decreases
out-of-area kindergarten magnet enrollment from 12 to 10 students. As students rise through the grades,
there will be progressively fewer out-of-area students. With current enrollment around 650
students, this means we’ll decrease enrollment by less than one-half of
one percent in the first year. It will
take 4 years before enrollment decreases by even 1 percent. This amount of change in enrollment
isn’t likely to have any real impact on our crowding issue.
- I believe that a
negotiable at-large is better than a set number of 10. We're already desperately overcrowded,
there's no need to add to that more than necessary to keep the program.
- I strongly
support changing this number to a variable number dictated by principal in
direct response to enrollment. Variable number would allow us to relieve
overcrowding/class size in times of overcrowding and raise numbers in
times of low enrollment.
- In spite of the
overcrowding of our school, I support keeping the current at large
students enrolled if at all possible. I do not wish that the plans made by
the families & the education of the students be disrupted by the poor
planning of the county. But I fully believe the SC must put the community
first. I would rather see Magnet end completely than continue
"as-is". I propose a 5 year phase out of the Magnet program.
This would allow the current group to get through while the school
community has the time to explore new options to reinvent itself &
find a new niche. We know that Magnet program funding is not likely to be
reinstated & that the program is outdated. I see no long term benefit
in holding on to the Magnet school identity.
- Monitoring the
out-of-area magnet students by a variable number would allow us to relieve
overcrowding/class size in times of overcrowding and raise numbers in
times of low enrollment.
- At a time when
our neighborhood school is already overcrowded, how can we justify
bringing in out-of-district students to add to the problem? Overcrowding
has already impacted the quality of education at our school, and if
there's a way to alleviate the problem we need to do it.
- I suggest a
modification to allow us to cap the number of incoming students each year
due to overcrowding and capacity issues.
- I also do not
agree that the school should be open to a minimum of 10 and no maximum of
students who are not tax payers in the local district. There must be a
balance between local and out of district kids in order to give priority
to any child in the primary attendance zone.
- I would like to
see us try and limit how many out of district students entered if Evansdale
continues to face overcrowding.
- This needs to
NOT be a minimum of ten non-resident but rather a variable number
determined by the principal based on enrollment due to overcrowding.
5.
Provide tutoring and remediation services at Evansdale if any student's
performance is below B average or a student tests below grade level.
Warm
- Sounds great! I
would put priority funding to hiring support staff to help every child
succeed, however best needed. I would like funding for a part-time
bilingual counselor is a top priority. I can only imagine what an asset
that would be to the ESOL students, parents and the teachers.
Cold
- As far as all
the students maintaining a B average, I wonder if this will cause us more
time, resources, and money than the current program. We cannot know how
many students will need support since our demographics are changing
rapidly and our school is still growing. I do think this is a worthy goal
and would have wonderful effects on the school.
- Disagree: All
out of district students should have to maintain a “B” to remain in the
program. We are already providing tutoring and remediation services
anyway.
- Having to
maintain a B average is a magnet requirement. There is no evidence that
the county would loosen that requirement, therefore the dispersal of the
magnet does NOT mean that all non-magnet students become magnet students.
It means that all resident magnet students are no longer magnet students,
and the only magnet students are non-resident students.
- Is this really
something that we want to designate as our “Magnet” status. Don’t we want all children to succeed
and some may be more average than above average – but they are succeeding
well for themselves. Just seems
like a lot of process for this effort – which should be happening at some
level anyway in any school.
Unresolved Issues/Other Comments
Low
participation of Hispanic and ELL students in magnet
Regarding
the question about why Hispanic children do not participate in Magnet programs.
I have
talked to several Hispanic parents, especially the ones that were in Pre-K last
year (with Ms. Stradford).
Here
are the reasons:
1. The
application to the lottery requires knowledge and experience with internet.
Most Hispanic parents do not have these skills.
The
website and the application do not have instructions in Spanish.
2.
Although the application can be done in writing, the process is cumbersome AND
it is not done in site at Evansdale but another place/location. The application
process requires information (Student ID) that parents do not understand.
3. When
the advertisement came in flyers, it was for the School of Choice program not
Magnet program. I was totally confused and I speak English.
4. The
main reason I (a fully bilingual parent) applied to the Magnet program was
because I have wonderful friends and neighbors that made sure that I applied to
the Magnet program and they guided me during the process (even while my child
was in the waiting list). Non-English speakers do not have these social
networks that inform them about these opportunities.
5. When
I talked to Hispanic parents they were very disappointed to have missed this
opportunity. They want to have the best education that schools can provide and
they want them to learn as many languages as possible. They (as immigrants)
fully understand the need and advantages to know other languages.
Overcrowding
WE HAVE
A HUGE OVERCROWDING PROBLEM
- Currently at 653
students (118% capacity); (100% Capacity = 554.)
- Currently have 6
Kindergarten homerooms. Could feasibly have 7 next year. Just added
another First grade classroom.
- Largest class
(K) right now has 122 students. What if we sustain that same amount of
growth over the next five years? (Meaning, if we added 122 students in
Kindergarten every year for the next five years. Imagine a snake eating
five golf balls and how fat he would get, fatter every year! If we added
122 Kindergarten students each year, for the next five years, we could
feasibly have 732 students at the school in five years. We’d be at 132%
capacity!)
- Overcrowding may
not be alleviated until at least 2016-2018 (at least four years, but more
likely six.) SPLOST IV schedule lists Pleasantdale replacement during
2016-2018.
- There could be
redistricting before 2016 to alleviate crowding. Last time redistricting
was discussed, a portion of our neighborhood feeder pattern was slated for
redistricting to Livsey/TuckerMS/Tucker HS. Keeping the magnet numbers
variable would help avoid this, too.
Thanks for publishing these.
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